I've been wondering about this topic quite a bit lately. I've had dates in recent months with men who 'no longer drink'. None would really go into detail about 'why' they stopped drinking, which brings up more than one concern.
Are they not drinking because they're allergic (understandable). They have an issue with alcohol (angry drunk who gets in LOTS of trouble after a few cocktails = babysitting and anxiety where you're counting the drinks they have because you know the 'tipping point'. Or are they recovering alcoholics who literally can't have any alcohol or it sends them into a snowball effect.
Either way, the moment I find out the person doesn't drink, it makes me self-conscious about what I'm drinking. Two drinks to a non-drinker seems like a lot and there's this feeling of judgment. They're reflecting on their own journey with alcohol and if you don't meet their boundaries...there must be something wrong with you. That's a lot to carry for someone else.
Not that I have anything against those who don't drink. I understand and respect the challenges around addiction or the desire to stay healthy and remove alcohol from their diets. But for me, I enjoy having a nice Brown Estate Zin with dinner, a great Tito's dirty martini after work to unwind, wine tasting in Yountville as a couple, trying a delicious French rose over a weekend brunch, sharing a bottle of vino while we cook dinner together (yep, I have the scenarios down and they're tried/tested and amazing) - all romantic experiences to me.
Of course, it's mandatory that my partner must handle their alcohol and doesn't become a mean/abusive/obnoxious drunk. I've experienced that in the past, several times, and it's scary and challenging. Standing at the bar watching and counting the number of drinks he's having, trying to subtly move the pint away from him so he doesn't notice, forcing water breaks, distracting him with conversations with his friends so he's not going for the next pint. All to avoid the aftermath of crazy, angry, drunk guy who apologizes profusely in the morning. Nope...not again.
Maybe the expectation to be with someone comfortable with (and can handle) alcohol comes from living in San Francisco where it's very much a drinking city - no matter the age range. Since I've lived in SF, I can't remember getting together with friends to catch up and alcohol was not involved: brunch, lunch, happy hour, dinner party, sharing major life news or experiences. All of that had a glass of wine or cocktail attached. I've heard various responses regarding this desire to have a partner who can drink - and it seems to be majority rules in "I need a partner who can enjoy a cocktail".
Do those who don't drink themselves have it tough in SF? There are definitely a ton of things to do in SF that doesn't revolve around drinking; hiking, biking, skiing, the beach....I'm at a loss of what else because at the end I want a reward of a nice chair, cold Sancerre [or French rosé], and great conversation with my guy or group of friends.
Are they not drinking because they're allergic (understandable). They have an issue with alcohol (angry drunk who gets in LOTS of trouble after a few cocktails = babysitting and anxiety where you're counting the drinks they have because you know the 'tipping point'. Or are they recovering alcoholics who literally can't have any alcohol or it sends them into a snowball effect.
Either way, the moment I find out the person doesn't drink, it makes me self-conscious about what I'm drinking. Two drinks to a non-drinker seems like a lot and there's this feeling of judgment. They're reflecting on their own journey with alcohol and if you don't meet their boundaries...there must be something wrong with you. That's a lot to carry for someone else.
Not that I have anything against those who don't drink. I understand and respect the challenges around addiction or the desire to stay healthy and remove alcohol from their diets. But for me, I enjoy having a nice Brown Estate Zin with dinner, a great Tito's dirty martini after work to unwind, wine tasting in Yountville as a couple, trying a delicious French rose over a weekend brunch, sharing a bottle of vino while we cook dinner together (yep, I have the scenarios down and they're tried/tested and amazing) - all romantic experiences to me.
Of course, it's mandatory that my partner must handle their alcohol and doesn't become a mean/abusive/obnoxious drunk. I've experienced that in the past, several times, and it's scary and challenging. Standing at the bar watching and counting the number of drinks he's having, trying to subtly move the pint away from him so he doesn't notice, forcing water breaks, distracting him with conversations with his friends so he's not going for the next pint. All to avoid the aftermath of crazy, angry, drunk guy who apologizes profusely in the morning. Nope...not again.
Maybe the expectation to be with someone comfortable with (and can handle) alcohol comes from living in San Francisco where it's very much a drinking city - no matter the age range. Since I've lived in SF, I can't remember getting together with friends to catch up and alcohol was not involved: brunch, lunch, happy hour, dinner party, sharing major life news or experiences. All of that had a glass of wine or cocktail attached. I've heard various responses regarding this desire to have a partner who can drink - and it seems to be majority rules in "I need a partner who can enjoy a cocktail".
Do those who don't drink themselves have it tough in SF? There are definitely a ton of things to do in SF that doesn't revolve around drinking; hiking, biking, skiing, the beach....I'm at a loss of what else because at the end I want a reward of a nice chair, cold Sancerre [or French rosé], and great conversation with my guy or group of friends.